Restoration update 21st Jan 2006
Launch dates announced......be there 25th/26th Feb for the first revenue earning runs. 1638 to go public at last!Yes its true. hard to believe but true. After all these years the time is here. 1638 is all but done. Fitters tweak this adjust that, reset whatever, but the bottom line is that after 13 years plus (and that's a significant part of anyone's life) the moment is nigh. The branchline weekend has been pencilled in as the big day. 1638 last earned money bashing the rails 42 years ago, but she's back, and she wont disappoint. Paint shines, brass sparkles, and if ever an engine looked the business, come down and see Richard Maunsell's finest in action. One of the great things about Maunsell engines is the well styled lines and balanced proportions of a purposeful engines. Well maybe I am biased but you aren't so come and take a look for yourself and see if I aren't right then! Our official press release gives the rest of the details (for indeed, the press have been hungry for news as they know what is in the offing! Taster pictures courtesy of John Fry
1638 in final preparation
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Shock Horror...large scale cover up in M.L.Society! |
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Work on 1638
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No No No, far from taking funds from the society, we are adding to them (see later), the "cover up" is what 1638 gets now she is at an advanced stage of restoration. It is also exceedingly difficult to do, but thanks to the skills of Ian Collins in particular take a look at some of these gems. The picture here (above) is of the cover that goes over the safety valves on top of the boiler. In times past, that is when making a production run of 30 of these engines, one would make a press mould of course. In the present situation ie: only one engine for the moment thank you, we have to use the alternative route and fabricate a replacement. The skill it takes to do the splendid job you see about is never better represented than by looking at the underside of the cover. Take a look. All the cuts and welds to shape the steels are done with care and precision. A master job. It isn't just the valve cover that gets the treatment either. The dome as shown last update is complete and painted, and then there are other covers too, such as the examples shown here below |
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A pipe cover, to go in situations such as over the
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Of course this is all only part of the story. There remains much constructional activity. The front of the boiler, in the smokebox area is made ready. Melvyn has welded in sacrificial plates in the lower smokebox that make ash removal easier. The area has been made ready also to receive the header assembly that gets bolted onto the front end of the front tubeplate. As you see, the unit is well prepared. The main steam pipes that connect the header to the outlets from the cylinder/valve assembly are to be replaced though. As a you can see (lower down the page) they are shot. The tube diameter is in the region of 5" and they are well decayed. The ends are corroded off. New tube ends are made as shown here, and a pipe with the necessary shaping will need to be made. Again the shape will need to be gained by a small "cut and weld" process rather than a shaping mandrel that was used in 1931. No small task. |
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There is more happening too. A wealth of little "this and that" jobs. Consider the pictures below. They show the running plates being fitted to the engine prior to bolting/ riveting as appropriate. The crane in the workshop makes this previously tricky job a real snip. Take a look too at the cab woodwork. The decking for the floor of the cab is just about there. It needs minor adjustments and then screwing down to finish. An interesting view is along the roof line. From the tender you see the cab roof, a hint of the safety valves, the dome assembly and the chimney smartly in line. ![]() ![]() |
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Finally then there is the question, how is this all paid for. Well the members are generous and we are thankful to all who have contributed and continue to do so. Every bit helps and all sources of revenue are investigated and the one you see here is a sales stand that we had running at the "Giants of Steam" weekend at Sheffield Park. We sell anything that makes profit really (er.. legal that is!), including books, magazines, videos etc, but also golf balls, paintings, and I am proud to say a book in Dutch to the only person at the Park on the day with a particular interest in Holland! As you can see we have a good working relationship with the Camelot group whose loco was on hand and shamelessly used as a backdrop! (They prefer the Platform 2 area truth told). If you are in the area, make your self known. A natter and a cup of tea is never far away. ![]() |
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Work on 1638
Back to the title though. The picture shows extensive deliberation by many members of the society on the different swatches of green prepared by Simon Allen (in both foreground and background). When is malachite not malachite? Usually when it says malachite on the tin it would seem. Anyway much chat and producing of books and matching swatches seems to have produced "a winner!" The target of this colour is Stowe's tender. It has the undercoat on, following its completion. It is sat in the running shed awaiting final attention. The main focus is of course on 1638.
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... you see the team above in all its glory enjoying lunch on the Sheffield Park platform. These are the commoners, as there are one or two in the Bessemers arms over the tracks! A chance for a natter in front of 847, our next overhaul candidate, is always welcome... and so are you, pop round sometime and make yourself known. Cheers Your Maunsell restoration team |
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Work on 1638
Other work underway is featured here with the main steamports that
sit under the smokebox, which itself has been made ready to fit to the front
tubeplate prior to boiler refitting for the live steam test. Now a dip in the
archives will tell you what a performance getting the steam port area cleaned
up was. Drilling out the sheared studs and trying to free off sealed joints.
The freezing conditions that were around when Barry Smith and I drilled out the
studs with the magnetic clamp drill are still fresh in the consciousness even
though it was a staggering 10 years ago (frightening!). Anyway, Ray has worked
hard on this and the repaired bolted solution is a perfect fix. Another task to consider is the tender axle boxes. Although we have always considered the tender a "done deal", this is not strictly true and one of the axle boxes is a bit "sticky" in its guides. Although everything was marked up on dismantling it looks suspiciously as if a error could have been made and we will have to check this out on the wheel drop facility in the workshop. |
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There has been other activity too. The cab roof has never been
completed, .. up until now, and the twist in it has been fixed thanks to Mel's
reworking of the roof strengthener. Just to complete the scene, here is the
smokebox which is ready for fitting to the boiler front. |
other newsWell, a concern is the PMV which looks well on the outside but needs a new floor. Its done for. There is daylight in places! This will need emptying soon. This has been brought to the fore by the fact that 847 is confirmed as the next job after 1638, and the stripping of it will necessitate storage facilities just like the PMV. Stowe is in the running shed but undergoing a repaint and will soon sport a coat of Malachite green for your enjoyment. |
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Work on 1638
Unfortunately not all the holes to which they re fitted are in top condition so this has to happen. Parts are weld strengthened or plate pieces grafted in. The hole drilled has to line up exactly with the hole in the outer plate and then they have to be tapped out with a thread. When you have done a few you get the effect shown with this nice neat row that is in the copper firebox. |
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When that's done then comes the best bit, depending on you idea of a good time. Its also a noisy and tricky bit, namely using a rivet gun to knock the ends over to get a sealed fit. It is this occupation in times past that ensured that boilermen were stone deaf well before retirement age. These days of course appropriate protection is not only to hand but mandatory. These below, are what they stays look like whilst being fitted by
the way. They don't stay so wonderfully shiny for long! These particular
examples, fitted to strengthened and repaired holes are only half fitted of
course they go right in for the threads to be engaged with both walls, the
smooth shank in the water jacket. |
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Down the pan! |
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The snap (right) shows the masterpiece on the deck. As you can see its mostly a 1/4" steel plate construction, hence the rotting completely of the previous pan. Sulphur rich ashes would soon see that off! |
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No smoking!
The other shot is off course the front side ready for use
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..and finally, I'd like to thank...
Other engines? well plans are afoot, and 847 and
Stowe are the likely benficiaries of course. 541 sits in the shed
patiently along with 1618. They make a fine Maunsell line up at the front of
the shed, under the new covered front end which has transparent roofing panels.
The chance to view them is much improved. Check them out on your next
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Work on 1638
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So, having a boiler, we will need to duct the steam at pressure to and from the cylinders. Well the ports in the saddle under the smokebox have been sat there as a known quantity for some time now. Their time has come. As you can see from the pics they are not in the prime of their youth! The threads in the ends are for the large part shot at. The shorter (inlet) manifolds are getting renewed and that is what the wooden pattern is about. New ones will be cast. The condition is explained by their position. They sit under the smokebox and were buried in most ash residue for years. One of the first jobs we did after boiler removal was to clear the ash away (and I remember the blisters well!) which was just as well or we would have to renew the lot by now I should reckon. |
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So having got the steam in and out of the cylinders the next task is to add the plumbing to make sure the other functions can work correctly. What you are looking at here is the lower side of the right hand cylinder with said pipework in place. Yet more copper that will need a shine up to look its best! And that's about it. There is no movement on any of the other engines, save to mention a big thanks to Rod Packham for attending to yet more woodwork problems on our PMV (Van). This is not high profile or glamourous but it is absolutely vital if we are to still have a van in the future. There aren't too many of these around any more so all work is appreciated here too. |
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Work on "Stowe"
Stowe's tender then is almost the "done deal". It needs painting and evening up on the springs, and a bit of small work such as the beading on the plate edges, but really its 95% done. It certainly makes one sit back and think "now what about the engine itself?" and to this end a costing job is going on to get the project management kick started.
Hoping to be able to join the picture possibilities soon is of course our other U class, 1638 |
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There are jobs "on the bench" still taking place. The picture shows so of the non ferrous pieces. The regulator plate is clear. The rings are pipe union pieces. Another piece on the bench is a newly fabricated firebox door set. All ready for action. |
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The cab roof is off presently and is getting tweaked , with he need to resolve one or two snags on this piece. What the frames are really waiting for of course is the boiler. The Boiler It is the boiler that is the key to the rest of the restoration. The estimate of next Easter to run is wholly achievable but this is entirely dependent on progress by the coded welders. This in turn is dependent on jobs that arise in the works, such as the current repairs to Blackmore Vale. As this engine is sought for the Giants of Steam day, it has priority.
The pictures below show the area prepared for the fitting of the corner and lower side plates of the firebox outer wrapper, and on the right a shot into the firebox tubeplate which as you can see from all the lovely shiny copper shavings is made ready to receive new tubes. That's is about the size of it. The boiler dictates the pace at which we can move forward to get the job finished. Having said that there is no doubt that the Bluebell Railway as well as ourselves, is very keen to get through these tasks and have the engine in revenue earning service again as soon as possible. Well we are all waiting for that one aren't we?! |
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Huge Rave held at Sheffield Park Works! |
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Work on "Stowe"
Take a look at this top-on view of the tender and you will see that we are almost there with it. There are the fiddly corner pieces to do, another tool box, and some under tank welding to sort, but no big kicks.
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The side on view allows one to dream a bit about how things will be with the boiler back in the frames |
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The Boiler And so we move on to the missing link to completion, that is the
boiler. We are dependent somewhat on the presence and action of the contract
welders at Bluebell works. Having said that much has happened and pieces are
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What you are admiring here is as follows; from the top left clockwise. Firstly a hole! the backplate has been cut out of the back of the boiler. It is here that there was a cut already made by British Rail who were contemplating fixing her before going for the easier scrapping option, so replacement here is hardly a surprise. Next you will see what was cut from the boiler, namely the rotten backplate. Even on such a small screen picture it is clear the poor condition this piece had. Next is the new piece, cut to shape and drilled to suit so all the stay holes match up. Finally there is an example of one of the corner pieces. That it is in poor shape is no surprise either as the water circulates at speed inside the boiler when hot, so the corners get a hammering. The piece is meant to taper to a point (overlapping of plates) towards the right hand edge, but thickness has been lost and the suface damage is clear. As you can see, there is a nice new full thickness piece of boiler grade steel being made ready to take its place. |
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The lower edges of the sides of the firebox have had similar attention and here you can see the lower 10" or so of the outer wrapper, which attaches to the foundation ring (nearest you) has been cut in anticipation of a new piece. Again this is just the kind of piece that is typically renewed due to the extreme wear is would get in regular service. Also on view here is the other end of the boiler, that is, the front tubeplate which has now been riveted in place, save for the lowest rivets which will be done when the boiler is flipped over to do the other side of the firebox.
It has to be said though that we are very pleased with progress and that light at the end of the tunnel is shining nice and bright! 847, 541, 1618 A brief word on the other engines. Things are looking up for 541 and 1618 now as the running shed end has been completed, They are near the front so the light from the see through roof panels is welcome, but not as welcome as the complete protection from the elements that the new and attractive it has to be said, shed end provides. 847 is not so lucky. Down on the Newick end siding, 847 is next to our PMV van and has received some basic maintenance and attention. We are assured that she will be moved to a more prominent position so she can at least be a static exhibit until here turn comes. She is ready for a boiler lift so we are lobbying for a sooner rather than later position in the queue. |
Weld-done All!A quick review of latest happenings 1638 |
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This is not the only activity with some of the tube work to go into the boiler receiving attention. We already have 21 new flue tubes in stock and these are being cleaned up prior to fitting to the new tubeplate. The smaller but more numerous smoke tubes are on order, 173 of them (hence the recent tube appeal which is still open by the way!)
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New palm stays have been fitted too, these bracing the front of the inner firebox to the bottom of the boiler. |
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Work on "Stowe"
Stowe's tender continues to progress. As you can see from these two pictures we have the before and after!. The ribs have to be accurately placed and welded in, then skinned with new plates. These plates are now fitted. the two large plates alone cost £1235. More steel plate has arrived on site and is being welded into position. The upper raves are now being fitted. The dirt and mess from the assembly phase has been cleaned up and is protected up using top quality paint. Mechanically, the brake blocks are now fitted and the brake rigging has been made operational. Some of the smaller items such as the tool boxes are being made ready to weld onto the tender |
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A Special Mention We note with sadness the death of George Nickson in June 2004, who passed away peacefully at the age of 68. George had been a stalwart member of the Bluebell Railway's loco dept for many years. It was George who actually purchased 1638 back in 1980 and then gave it to the Bluebell Railway. It is to be regretted that we have not been able to get 1638 finished in time for George to see and savour. However George did not put any pressure on us, he knew the job was getting done, and done well. That was pleasure enough for him. So thank you George for your generosity all those years ago. |
Coppering Up!There is some excellent progress on several fronts so here's the latest on how things are coming along 1638 |
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The backhead panels are all removed and the plates to fit are under construction. Other work in the offing for the boiler will be undertaken by our Chairman Ray who will resurface the regulator valve which has been removed from the dome area. The refurb of the regulator rod and handle is already in hand. Another item that is made and awaiting fitting is the tubeplate. This substantial piece of work looks a treat. Of course when riveted to the barrel of the boiler it will need plenty of tubes fitting in it. Please refer to our "sponsor a tube" appeal to move this job along! |
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Finally, we are looking ahead to the painting of the engine. With
the later thirties dark olive in favour, due largely to the fact that it will
match up beautifully to the rake of Maunsell coaches that the railway has in
the same colour, colour matching has taken place. Samples from distributors
have been sample painted to the right rear driving wheel. As you can see the
distributors idea of what constituted match and ours were somewhat different.
Ray was able to track down a company that could correctly match the colour spec
though, so orders can be made in due course. |
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Work on "Stowe"
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Other matters Well, 541 is in the shed and to be honest likely to stay for a while yet, along with our other U Class, 1618. On the bright side though the new shed wall and roof extension is under construction and so total cover will be the result, something our rather exposed Q class has really needed. 847 remains in the siding but is a candidate for attention in the near future, as of course is Stowe itself. |
Restoration info - posted 21st February 2004Tanx for everything!An update on recent developments through the winter are in order and so here are a few notes. Progress is taking place on two fronts. 1638
The next stage of the boiler overhaul involves specialist copper welding repairs to the inner firebox, which are due to start shortly, then the boiler will be turned over for repair on other side of the inner firebox. Then the steel outer wrapper plate will be renewed in the areas that have been cut out. This is done by preparing a replacement plate of the appropriate grade steel to weld into place. If the piece happens to be flat then that's fine, but of course curved pieces have to be prepared in advance and for that we have to buy in boilersmith services. The welding being a specialised highly skilled task is undertaken by contract welders working on site at the Bluebell workshops. |
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Work on "Stowe"
The careful and painstaking work of measuring out ribs for the inside of the tank is underway. When cut out the position has to be established and it welded into place. This has to be right if we are to have an even, strong and regular shaped tank. As you can see Melvyn is making a good job of it. The advantageous position in the workshop is making for good progress. There is a certain amount of "making hay whilst the sun shines", and the benefits of an inside position for working during the winter months is well appreciated by the working party. |
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Restoration info - posted 23rd November 2003The cut and thrust of it allSplendid progress has taken place recently and here are some pictures to prove it! 1638 |
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The replacement pieces of steel to go in the cut areas are boiler grade and in some places flat, but in others and this will be known when the foundation ring (the spacer between the inner and outer firebox wrappers, at the base of the boiler) is removed later on, will be curved and will need specialist boilersmith services to have them made. Current favoured purveyors of this service are Pridhams, the well known boiler repair company who attend so many steam locomotives. |
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Here you are looking at the cut edge of the wrapper on the front face of the firebox. You can get an impression of the number of stays that keep the distance between inner and outer wrappers.
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Work on "Stowe"
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The low shot here shows the necessary detail including the tender number casting, 714 in our case. The tender was paired with "Eastbourne" when it was new |
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Other Engines I'm afraid that there is little to tell. 847 awaits a workshop slot and is on the head shunt away from view for most people, and 1618, and the unlucky (so near yet so far!) 541 remain in the shed, keeping their places in the queue. Though at least 541, which at least is one of the first engines visitors see when they arrive, has has a cleaning "makeover" with buffer paint and a boiler paintwork cleanup. Well done to the team that undertook this less than glamourous but much appreciated work
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Excellent progress to report on various fronts. 1638 Ray Bellingham has completed all the machining and assembly work on 1638's motion and it looks an absolute treat of precision engineering and polished brass and steel. Close examination of the finish on the small details, such as the oil pots, nuts and split pins shows how dedicated Ray has been to the task. He now needs a bit of space in the works to move the chassis one revolution of the wheels in order to set the valves. He has also been busy re-assembling the sanding and damper gear in the cab which involves all sorts of bits of fiddly rodding and levers and organising machining of some of the various brass fittings for the cab. This includes work on the pressure relief and drain cock valves which Tony Deller has undertaken Clive Williams, a very useful new member to our working gang, had the fiddly task of fitting the new axle box covers that Melvyn Frohnsdorff had made. Various studs in the frames had rusted up and needed to be freed off before they could be fitted. Some of the other members of the Sunday gang such as Clive Bean, Ian Hawkins and David Jones have been fettling up the front steps and running plates that need to go back up above the cylinders. Frank Glue has persevered with tackling the defective copper stays, which has involved chiseling off the heads and drilling them out as appropriate. On a recent Sunday Russell Donovan (one of the Dukedog gang) stepped in when Frank was not around and got stuck in with Keith Sturt in removing the nuts of other stays that need to come out. And finally Ray Bellingham has got the new blank tube plate into the work shop and at the time of writing was about to get started on the long job of machining out all the holes for the flues, tubes and wash out plugs etc. Finishing this off will be another big step forward. 928 Stowe's tender Meanwhile Melvyn and the Sunday gang continue to rattle along with work on Stowe's tender. Melvyn finished the gutsy job of getting the horn guide castings true and square and then mounted the new horn guide faces up in position. Once he started offering up the axle boxes it was found that they were also a bit tight and so Melvyn and others have had a real hard time of it getting the boxes to fit - but as this is written there was about one more days work to do and then a crane could be hired in order to re-wheel the chassis in November. It certainly has been a bit of a struggle of a job but we will all be pleased to see the chassis re-wheeled and on the road again. The next job will be to crack on with construction of the tender tank. Meanwhile Simon Allan, David Jones and Paul Skinner have all done some stalwart work on cleaning up and repainting 541 such that it now looks one of the tidiest of all the engines in store in the running shed.
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The pictures on view will tell you that although we have made good progress in recent weeks, there is nothing physically BIG to show for it. Take for example the motion on 1638. The valve gear is all in and links are up. You don't get to see therefore the piston and rings etc. What we do have is the motion in the "home straight" awaiting only a few odds and ends and timing up. This is to the credit of Ray Bellingham who has put in a great effort to make this happen. The cloth is there to protect the slidebars that have been up some time. Take a look at some of the work that has to be done. Currently the expansion links are being prepared. These are original pieces and the left picture shows clearly the state they are in. It is on the bed on the machine that resurfaces the main journal/boss. Take a look at the other picture now to see the end result. |
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This then is what you get to see after all the hard work.... ie: not a lot!! Its all bolted up and shiny. the keen eyed amongst you will note that our engine has the original inside ported cylinders. This is Southern railway spec. Some were later modified (1625 at the Mid Hants is one) to have the British Railway pattern with the main steam inlet port visibly emerging from the lower side of the smokebox rather than underneath and out of sight. |
Work on "Stowe"
Stowe's tender continues to develop. As you can see from the pictures, the tender base is going down now and Melvyn is there to be spotted with the mag drill locating and creating the main points.. 3 sheets of steel will be welded to create one. This then will be the base on which the tank is created just as we did with 1638. (Don't worry about the Malachite green by the way, it will be in Olive, its just the undercoat in place!) Now the problem is that the tender needs re-wheeling really in order to create the level frame surface (as well as moveable one) for the tank to be created upon it. This can only be done when the wheels sets, which you can see all clean, machined, and ready, are matched up to the axle boxes and fitted. This needs white-metalling and machining to be done, and then a crane opportunity to be arranged for the physical lifting of frames onto wheels sets. The hornguides (plates that locate the axleboxes, are worn thin too so these need to be made before any re-wheeling can be done. This will need to be a priority soon or work will grind to a halt. |
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Other Engines I'm afraid that there is little to tell. 847 awaits a workshop slot and is on the head shunt away from view for most people, and 1618, and the unlucky (so near yet so far!) 541 remain in the shed, keeping their places in the queue.
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The motion then. As you can see from the picture, much of this is up. The valves are the next thing and fresh heads and new rings have already been prepared and sourced. The valve timing will need to be set, but all the various bits and pieces are coming together for this operation. There are also a few castings either being machined, or coming out of storage such as the cylinder lubricator pot shown here. there's a whole wealth of them on the engine really. The next steps then are, set the valves up, get the boiler in, and set to with welders. How much has to be replaced depends on what is found when the boiler is opened up properly. The tubeplate which we have as a steel blank, will need to be drilled. This very repetitive exercise requires use of the large radial arm drill, and is likely to take some time. There are a lot of holes requiring precise drilling. |
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Other Engines I'm afraid that there is little to tell. 847 awaits a workshop slot and is on the head shunt away from view for most people, and 1618, and the unlucky (so near yet so far!) 541 remain in the shed, keeping their places in the queue.
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Of course what's on the engine presently is only a small part of what goes on. Consider the link shown here. Its one thing to get the forging done, and another to get the machining done. When that is achieved its tempting to think that the job is just about done. Alas no! The various rods have to be fitted out with bushes, and the pins with their fixing nuts and assorted location pins have to be made, and reamed to the correct exact size. Not exactly a 2 mins job. This simple explanation in itself overlooks that many of the motion pieces need whitemettaling, and machining. Quite a performance all in all. Much of this is now achieved however, and although the engine itself doesn't look too different from earlier, great advances have ben made. |
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The insert here shows another focus of attention, namely the valve
rods. They have been stripped bare and the surfaces made ready for the various
valve fittings they will carry. The cylinder rods are undergoing a similar
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Here is a nice little example of how "doing it right" counts, but
by the same token takes a fair bit of time. The casting in the picture goes at
the end of the valve chest. The plug that is held is new. The thread state in
the casting was very poor. Attempts were made to get hold of a tap to re-cut
the thread. Not surprisingly perhaps none was to be found. The alternative was
to painstakingly working the thread with a thread file and similar tools to
chase the thread out by hand. A great job, and a satisfaction to know this, but
you don't get to actually see a lot for the time invested! All credit to Ray on
that one. Mention must also be made of the stirling, and less pleasant work carried out by the Sunday gang. One such task involved sitting atop the engine, where the smokebox will sit in due course, and with scraper in hand, delving into the main steam ports. Its no use doing all this lovely engineering if the first time you fire the engine up, assorted sediment, goo and loose bits get dragged into the wonderfully prepared cylinder / valve areas. A generous portion of disgusting tar like goo was retrieved from the walls of these ports. Not nice but someone has to do it! |
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"Stowe" Stowe's tender is going to be good as new. The front end is complete as you can see. Its a good strong job and this led to a closer view of the rear drag box. It s was decided that there is little point in having a first rate front end and a rear box that will require attention in 5 years time. The following picture shows the solution therefore. The back box has been removed. Even on a picture this size it should be possible to see the wasting that has taken place on the plates near where they have been attached to each other. This will cost us in steel of course but its much better than the alternative. A further diet of needle gunning, fabrication, riveting and painting is following. |
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Other Engines I'm afraid that there is little to tell. 847 awaits a workshop slot, and 1618, and the unlucky (so near yet so far!) 541 remain in the shed, keeping their places in the queue. The PMV Mention must be made through of the hard work being done by Rod Packham. You may recall (many forget) that we are also the owners of what is becoming an increasingly rare breed, namely a Southern PMV wagon. This wooden framed van has acted as a store for us for many years now and is to be found currently at the very end of the siding at Sheffield Park, that can just about be seen from the road as one approaches the Park from Haywards Heath. Rod has put much maintenance effort into preserving this wagon in good shape. His carpentry skills have come in handy as he has replaced quite a few rotten planks, usually to be found at the bottom of the wagons 8 doors. he has also applied much paint to the the vehicle with the result that its quite a shame that the wagon is out of sight because it looks like what it is, a good authentic Southern vehicle. |
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...and finally I know that this has nothing to do with the Maunsell society, but as you are reading this you must be interested in steam engines. The preservation movement has come a long way in 40 years. Early operation of engines for example depended on getting a loco from BR that was " a runner". Serious repairs (anything above a general "lube and fix it" were either not on, or had too be bought in expensively). To me the work on the terrier tanks done recently act as a major landmark for how far we have come. The manufacture of a new cylinder for a locomotive would have been beyond the farthest fetched dreams of early pioneers, but that is exactly what has happened. It was mentioned in a Bluebell news recently, but I reckon its an achievement worth a closer look. Brian Wilkie has spent the last 2 years making a 50 piece pattern to suit the cylinders of an LBSC terrier tank. The first casting using the pattern is shown. It weighs in, by the foundry's' estimate at two thirds of a ton. Its a testing prototype, but it looks very promising and I am told it should machine up well. An impressive achievement to my mind.
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1638 Far from it.. we are most interested and quite chuffed too. 1638 is in the works you see, and thanks to the fact that our Chairman Ray has gone down to 3 days working for the Bluebell, we have been able to pick up the other 2 days and so, things have moved apace. For a start getting the engine in the works is a most helpful move. The chassis can be cleaned up and prepared for further work, which Ian Hawkins is pitching in with. This ensures that Ray is available to do more technical stuff, like match the motion up etc etc. |
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When we received 1638, we were lucky enough to have slidebars for it. They were in a poor state, but these have been restored to their former glory, and have been fitted up to the engine. Top bars should be on too by the time you read this. |
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Work on "Stowe"
You may notice from the outside of the frames that everything looks as it should; hardly a trace of the extensive rebuild that has been undertaken. The inside of the frames shot shows the weld line, as this has not been ground flush, and so the line between old and new is quite clear. The next step is to rivet up the prepared brackets, and so on to preparation and refitting of items like brake gear, vacuum cylinders etc, and preparation of the axle boxes leading to rewheeling. |
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Quite so. Unlike 1638's tender, there is a serious frames issue on Stowes tender, as shown last time. What is in progress therefore is frame repair and drag box replacement at the front end.
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The second photo shows the rear drag box with the top removed. Clive is giving the rest of it the needle gun treatment. This is unpleasant work but essential if the strength of the section is to be guaranteed. |
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Another piece of progress has ben achieved by our Chairman, Ray Bellingham. Has machined the white-metalled bushes that are to be fitted to the rods in due course. The nicely cut metal looks a treat, with only the keyways to machine on the sides of the bushes. As a complete set with the machined rods, they look quite smart too. |
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... and the dodgy pun matches the dodgy state that Stowes' tender
has gotten into over that last few years. With 1638's tender completed, the
engine is about as far on as she is going to get without some reserved time in
the workshop to get her finished off... specifically the boiler in particular
receiving the expert attention of the welders. This time is promised, so 1638
is at a stand still until this happens. There is an exception to this though.
Since Ray eased off from full time working at the works, he has made himself
available to the society who have hired him for 2 days a week. This is a good
arrangement, as Ray doesn't have to work longer, but we get 2 dedicated days of
his highly skilled time in a workshop with all its facilities made available to
us. The upshot? well much skilled work gets done and volunteer work is
supplemented to keep things moving along. In the immediate future this
manifests itself as the bushes for the rods. Ray has already lined them with
white metal, and they are going to get machined to suit the journals and rods
in the weeks ahead. 1638 will then be shunted into the works to try the rods up
against the engine and adjust them to finish the job off. Hey presto, another
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You are looking at it from the worst end... the inner frame plates will indicate this. The front drag box is pretty ugly too. In short the front third is a mess!. The flip side is that the other 2 thirds are quite good and unlike 1638 we should be able to keep the rear drag box. The 2 pictures below show the extent of the front third wear and tear The 3/8"s plate as you will notice is rotted through. Note also the riveted patch that BR fitted towards the front. this was clearly a problem with some history. A bit of hearsay now!
Whilst musing to others that this must have been a long-standing problem dating from the early 60's (ie: 40 ago!) and so must have been like that when Stowe was last running in the early 80's, someone said that they recalled that if the brakes were applied hard the floor could have been felt to move under the feet of the crew!! Yikes. We are talking quite some time ago now of course, but nevertheless, I'm glad that she is getting the full treatment this time around clearly it is overdue! |
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Look closely at this drag box. See the middle plates between the
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Due to a fortuitous opportunity to acquire appropriate steel, we have the chance to construct pieces for the new tank etc. so whilst some people are cutting, and needle gunning (yes, back to all that noise again) others can make pieces with kit such as the magnetic drill that you can see in action here.
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Here we go again, and Mark is going for it with the needle gun to
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Finally, you may well wonder who the active restoration team are. Well on a recent Sunday many (though not all... apologies to the absent) were at the Park at the same time. I took the opportunity to take this shot. This particular dirty dozen are
Back row: Peter Jessop, Steve Pilcher, Barry Smith, Jim Thomas
Front Row: Ian Hawkins, Rod Packham, Mike Gibbins, Clive Bean, Frank
Glue, Paul Skinner, Melvyn Frohnsdorff, Paul Thorp.
Bye for now!
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The work on the tender of 1638 is effectively finished. Sure there are a few loose ends, such as paint work, wooden decking and a bit of pipework underneath, but in real terms the job is done. We are as you might image very pleased at this and, the tender looks great. Incidentally, it is planned to paint on the "Southern" wording and 1638, to identify it; after all we are really pleased with it. This will get repainted though, as when the engine and tender are finally outshopped together, we want a perfect colour and condition match. As this event is still some time in the future then what we do now will make it look good and stay in good condition, but not be the final top coat. What then about subsequent progress on 1638? well the engine chassis is done. The boiler is where the real work is. You may recall that we stripped the boiler out some 3 or 4 years ago. The boiler has been shifted in the yard. It is going to get its new front tubeplate bolted on temporarily to allow it to have some balance for safety's sake so that it can be crane hoisted and turned for close examination of the foundation ring. This is the steel ring that is at the bottom of the boiler which bridges the couple of inches between the inner copper firebox, and the outer steel wrapper that is visible. This is also where most work is anticipated as steel sections need cutting and renewing and grafting in. The other focus of activity will be on the motion. We have the rods and bushes, but these will need fitting up to the engine. This requires time, patience, and machining work. It also requires the cylinders and valve chests to be honed at best, skimmed at worst. This of course will require the engine to be in the works. On this score the situation looks quite positive. Whilst things change regularly at the Bluebell, encouraging noises that give us some grounds for optimism have been emanating from the Bluebell railway, as several engines vie for limited workshop time and space. It does help that the society is in a position to ease the engines' passage through the works with some purchased engineers time to supplement volunteer time. |
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Work has started therefore. As you can see the rotten tank has
been stripped back. The bottom 2 feet or so were completely rotten, and a new
tank will be built. The frame condition is an unknown quantity until the tank
base is removed. The frames will then go on jacks and get the needle gun
treatment. The wheels will come out, as before and probably get turned. The
jury is still out on that one. Some drag box work will be necessary, though
hopefully not as extensive as that done on 1638.... we will have to see. Things have proceeded apace as we are dealing with an empty tender. With 1638 we had a concrete filled tank! No JCB necessary this time. The tender comes from 914 Eastbourne, which Stowe was paired with in the late 50's. The right side seems to have been re-skinned at some time as the ribs and plates on this side panel are welded up, whereas the rest of the tank is of earlier rivet construction. The amount of rust sludge in the bottom was immense. There would certainly have been filter and feed problems had the tank be adjudged sound enough to keep I suspect. As can be seen below, the "Southern" and number writing was cut out, but this only dates from the preservation era of course... no original paint has been found as yet. |
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847 We should not forget that we have other engines too of course. 847 has now static display duties only. Whether she gets a workshop berth or not depends on the complex options that face the finite resources of the workshop. The job would be comparatively painless, but still requiring that scarce commodity of time. Check out the progress on its own page here |
541, 1618
Poor old 541`.... so near yet so far! This popular engine was in line for a works place to get an overhaul. She needs a tender tank and a boiler over haul. Then Stowe came along, and 847 was also looking a good bet. The upshot is that 541 goes back to the queue! She has had her motion brushed and oiled to keep the rust off, but sits on static duties in the shed at Sheffield Park.
1618, as before is confined to the queue. With 1638 in pole position for works attention, 1618's place is a long way off yet.
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As you can see then most of the panelling is in the tender. All the odd shaped pieces have been cut ands shaped and welded. It was a long drawn out tricky thing to do I can tell you, so much credit to Melvyn then for sorting it out. The boxes that look like the eyes are tool boxes, and the "nose" is the coal hole door. This is a sliding door for the fireman to operate. As you might notice too the whole thing is in red oxide paint, pending undercoating and top coating. This wont happen until it is in the works. The rear upper panel to the tank has been deliberately left off though as access is needed ot the tank insides. This has been cleaned out and red oxided. What you can see in the picture though is Jim giving the innards a coat of (sky blue) "bridge paint", real weatherproofing stuff. The tank isn't water tight yet, as it gets bolted to the frames. When in the works the crane will lift it off (lifting eyes already fitted) and the seams on the underside will get their second pass. Welding fumes is another reason the last panel remains unfitted. |
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There is of course another part to go on, namely the tender tank raves. There was much discussion on how this would be best achieved. The concensus was to weld them on as additions. Sourcing huge sheet areas and putting a bend in was logistically a problem. What you can see then in the third picture is some makeshift jig brackets. These will support the raves to the correct angle whilst they are being fitted.they are only tack welded in place and will get removed afterwards. The point of these was to help the coal trim itself, that is, stay on the tender and hopefully fall down the chute as the fireman shovells it away at the bottom. Repton 926 was once the subject of a modification, which increased the size of these raves, but the mod was not successful enough to make it general practice.
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847 We should not forget that we have other engines too of course. 847 has been receiving more attention. Check out the progress on its own page here |
Stowe, 541, 1618
As far as our other engines are concerned, all has been overshadowed, and quite right too, by the arrival to our collection of Stowe. Fundraising to complete this purchase is still in progress, but the engine is secured. There is an overhaul agreement with the railway for this engine, but this provides us with the usual dilemma. Stowe can wait its turn. When that turn is, is another matter. Too many engines vying for the same workshop space. Discussions have been in hand to get the railways viewpoint on this. The possibility then is to start work on Stowe, to reduce the amount the works has to do and so move the engine up the queue as it presents the railway with a more attractive option for a quicker completion. There are no guarantees to this though. Another factor in the equation to consider is that this is the route we have already gone down with 847, (we didn't know then that Stowe was going to come up of course) who has now reached the point where no further work can take place until the boiler is lifted. This gives us an engine in pieces. How many engines in pieces do we want?! Then lets consider 541. This poor engine was so near yet so far!! Useful, economical, historically attractive and a favourite with the public and crews, it had patiently waited, and until recently was a very good bet to get a works place. 1638, 847 and Stowe have changed that around. But then quite clearly you can only offer the resources that you have. Where does this leave us? well the best description is to say that negotiations are still in place. We have as a society given a clear indication of our commitment to the railway recently; we wouldn't really want to go anywhere else. The Bluebell are sympathetic to us as a result so if it can happen it will... I'll keep you posted!
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Just to prove that progress is being made, here are some shots of the tender tank in its naked glory! All ribs and baffles are in place and the next step forward is to add the plating to what is now quite a rigid structure. The side plates are ordered and due to their size will be quite a task to offer them up for fitting. This is most likely to be done with a fork lift truck, but a crane isn't out of the question. As you can see from the other pictures, a bit of fun was had with the camera, taking advantage of the shunting in the yard at Sheffield Park on the day of the Maunsell Society AGM. All our engines were visible to visitors, and 1618 was moved alongside 1638 for differences/similarities/progress to be checked. A glance across the 2 engines alongside gave one the opportunity to compare the 2 completed cabs, and imagine the engines together as complete. Nice thought to keep us going that.
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Other areas of interest. Well as far as 1638 is concerned, the cab is finally done, and much "off the loco" stuff has been attended to like drain cock valves, and bushes for the rods. With the tender tank taking shape, she's actually beginning to resemble a locomotive. Just needs a boiler! Of course the pieces of the tender have to be created in the first place. Here in the picture below, Melvyn is using the Oxy Acetylene line cutter, whilst Clive looks like he's about to dress the edges of the front scuttle panel. |
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847 We should not forget that we have other engines too of course. 847 has been receiving more attention. Check out the progress on its own page here |
541
Sorry to have to report that there's no change again. Blackmore Vale is still in the workshop and likely to be so for 3 months or so yet, so I don't see much movement until later in the year really. Her position in the queue has been reaffirmed more than once, but things change fast in railway circles, bit like when the football club chairman gives a vote of confidence in the manager! Hopefully these wont be the similar "kiss of death" statements!
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847 We should not forget that we have other engines too of course. 847 has been receiving more attention. Check out the progress on its own page here |
541
Sorry to have to report that there's no change again. Blackmore Vale is still in the workshop and likely to be so for 3 months or so yet, so I don't see much movement until later in the year really.
Much progress has been made since the last update. For a start we
actually have the rods back from machining now. they have been away for the
best part of 2 years as we were going to get the best price if we weren't in a
hurry and they could fit the work in as and when, when they were slack, Well it
was worthwhile and the quality of the machining is good. the bronze bush
castings to go in the "eye" of the rods have also been done and they await
machining, which will be done in the Bluebell Railway workshops. The plan is to
machine and fit these, and then offer the rods to the wheels sets so that they
are fitted correctly, then remove them pending final assembly so that grit from
the loco yard does not get in and ruin the good work. Another (expensive)
hurdle has been jumped!!
The tender has also been getting its fair share of attention. This has been finished as a rolling chassis and work has commenced on the manufacturing of a tank to go on it. the base plates have been bought and fitted up to the chassis, and the arched internal splashers fitted. Don't forget that with the weight of the coal and water on board, the tender will sit much lower on its springs, hence the need for these recesses for the wheels to be fitted to the lower side of the tank. The rest of the tank manufacture will take place in the workshops on a level surface to guarantee that everything is correctly in angle. this is likely to happen later in the year, probably around Christmas time at present estimates, as the skilled welders needed to do this work aren't available until then.
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The cab has received attention and is just about complete. We have acquired spectacle plate window frames, and that just about completes the acquisition list. Much needs overhauling, but nothing major now needs to be made. What we have then is an overhaul and assemble job rather than a make and assemble job. Most restoration societies would be envious of such a position.
Other points of interest are the smaller rods that have come back. They also were machined of course. What you see in this picture are a couple of drop links, a union link, combo link, and reverser link. That about wraps it up for 1638 aside from the small pieces which are being assembled like tank rear steps and lamp brackets, new drivers wooden seat and so on.
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Check out the progress on its own page here
541
Sorry to have to report that there's no change on this one. The overhaul has been put back due to the energies and efforts that have gone into the O1's restoration. Next up is Blackmore Vale so I don't see much movement for another year really
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The state of play presently with the engine and tender of U Class 1638
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Another summer has come and gone. Sometimes you have great expectations about what you want to achieve, and are let down. Sometimes you expect nothing much and take a great leap forward. To be honest, this year is nearer to the former category. the tender is still not rewheeled. The reason is simple. If we want the crane for almost nothing (and we do, we do!) then we have to wait until the crane has several jobs to do and share the cost. We wait patiently.
The rods are still not back from machining in Manchester. Reason is that if we want a quality job on the cheap (and we do, we do!) then we have to accept that the job has to go whenever the works has a slack spell. they haven't had enough of them and the rods are still in Manchester.
So what have we been doing? Well
the front dragbox is finished. This took a fair bit of welding and riveting.
the job was further delayed due to our employed man Melvyn being struck down
with something nasty for 3 weeks. However it is now done.. hurrah! Things that
could be done at anytime have moved to the fore. the valances have been fitted
to the tender chassis. this required some alignment, as well as decorative
filets adding as shown in the picture here, where, painted up in primer the
whole thing looks rather nice if I don't say so myself!
Otherwise, the axle boxes are prepared, and almost everything "do-able" to the chassis has been done. The hand brake will be fitted to the chassis, which will make things easier following rewheeling, and the drawbar is under construction too. The tender also has steps all round now.
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Other work has focused on the cab roof. Progress can be viewed from the picture. A coat of paint and then refitting is possible. Other news is thin on the ground so that's all for now |
847's progress can be viewed, from now on on a separate page that has been started to cover this news.
Here's how the tender chassis looks now its rewheeled. Positioned on the "tramway" that is used to deliver/ remove engines at the Bluebell the tender chassis looks a fine sight to us. The light green is an undercoat and a precursor to the Maunsell olive green that she will be finished off in. In the background you can see 847, close to the workshop entrance where she is getting close boiler attention prior to the boiler lift that is an essential feature of her major overhaul. the boiler to the right is 1638's and is stripped to receive the attention of the welders sometime in the future. The tubeplate is under construction.
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handbrake for the tender is being adjusted. The tender, despite being a
standard 4000 gallon type, from the Southern does have one or two incorrect
features that have to be addressed. The tender is ex-Schools class, a left hand
drive engine. The tender is destined for a U Class, a right hand drive engine.
This means the shaft under the front of the tender that connects the handle to
the brakeshafts has to be adjusted to reflect the correct positioning of the
handbrake handle. This can be done by removing the lug that is an interference
fit on the cast shaft, and securing it to a freshly machined sleeve on the
other end of the shaft. This clever engineering solution gives a perfect
working result and avoids the need to have to cast a new transfer shaft. Our
chairman Ray takes the credit for hatching that devious plan! Next stop, is the
construction of the tank itself, no mean feat when one considers what is
involved. I'll explain with photos as we go along.. keep watching!
Plenty to show you this time. Apart from the spectacle plate which has now been completed thus meaning that the cab only needs reassembling, all work has been focused on the tender. This is because the railway needs a bit more space in the yard, and because loco work is held a bit for the forgings which are away at a firm in Manchester for machining and are not expected back until may at the earliest. We get a cheaper price by letting them have a "filler" job, and we aren't particularly in a rush for these rods at the moment. Additionally the completion of the tender would be a significant step forward in the restoration process, and so a morale booster for both members and the donations prospects!
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Chassis work is almost complete. The rear drag box is complete and the front one almost. we are about ready for the crane for a rewheeling session. Now this may seem slow going to some, so take look at the following pictures and see what is involved. These 2 pictures above show the "before and after" in the assembly of the dragbox. The plate had to be bought, cut to shape, measured up and drilled, and then riveted in place with ¾" rivets. the riveting can only be done when there is a suitable size team available at the same time and place. This is because one heats the rivets, the second supports the "dolly" behind the rivet to get the treatment, and the third drives the rivet down. In reality a 4th man is needed to fetch and carry, especially as speed is of the essence. If the rivet cools from its 1300°c too much it with not shape correctly or worse it will jam up before it reaches its correct position.
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So, this is how its done. Rod shown here heats the rivet in an induction heater, trundled out from, the workshop. For the power needed, this is of course a 3 phase device. He then dashes to the dragbox and with the tongs, rams the rivet into its appropriate hole. The moment that its in place, Steve (the unfortunate chap inside the dragbox just visible lower left) puts the dolly behind the rivet, then Melvyn, working as quickly as possible drives the rivet down with the pneumatic riveting gun, the noise is deafening. To think that they didn't have ear defenders in the olden days. No wonder everyone was forced to lip read in the boiler shops of the old railways.. they were all stone deaf. |
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Due to the noise, and long set up, pack away time for all the kit, we use when possible, the new hydraulic riveter. this G clamp type device uses shear power and so requires no heating of the rivet. unfortunately though its very heavy, and can only do the easily accessible rivets.
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Such is the strength of the society at the moment that we are able to raise two teams. A team lead by Adrian Pinkess has started work on preparing 847, which came out of traffic last September, for the workshop. You may recall that 847, our S15 loco, was sold short on its boiler certificate, and only ran for 5 years. The chances of a fast return to service are enhanced by our help, even though the Bluebell is obliged by the terms of the running agreement to overhaul the engine. Resources are finite so the team have started. The boiler has been stripped of its tubes, large and small, with superheater filaments removed. The firebox brick arch has been taken out, and the boiler is being made ready for its lift. This necessitates the removal of the layer of concrete that seals the floor of the smokebox, an unpleasant bit of work. The focus is the boiler for, although the tyre sets will get a reprofile, the mechanical condition of the engine is good, it only ran 5 years after all. The boiler though was to a large extent still in ex-BR condition, hence the work in this area.
541
Latest news is that 541 has risen to the top of the queue, and after the engines in the works have been completed, she will be the next one in. This means still another year I guess, till she gets serious attention, but at least a schedule has been set. The engines economy, and attractiveness to the public as well as its popularity with working crews stood it in good stead, as well as the fact that its in pretty good shape, and so should need not too much time spent on it, and as with the rest of the world, time really is money.
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Well, the turn of another year comes and then goes, as it does for us all, and has for the Maunsell Society for 30 years and more. its at such a time, in the depths of winter, that one tends to review progress made during the year. It is just over a year now since the frames of 1638 were rewheeled for example.. it seems much longer than that, but since then the engine has received much work and a year ago we didn't even have a tender to work on! Before 1638 was put into the running shed, with time being diverted to the tender when it arrived, she was in the workshops for a while where the cab sides were worked on extensively, and fitted. Similarly the running plates were completed and all the steps affixed. Much "off-engine" work took place at this time too, with the casting of many parts, and the draughting of plans for those remaining to be cast (the coupling rods, which have now been ordered, and are expected in March). The bronze oil pots were cast and machined, amongst a whole plethora of similar sized items, which now sit in the storage container, awaiting their moment when the final assembly of the locomotive comes around. The engine is now stored under cover and awaits some action on the boiler before too much more can be done on it.
The boiler then, well this has seen limited work this year, following its stripping for inspection last year. Substantial pieces of steel have been ordered for the boiler, specifically the front tubeplate and the smokebox. The tubeplate has been rough machined, but attention has shifted to this as the winter has arrived, and everyone is glad of a job that involves not being too far away from the workshops heater!!.. the large drill stands only a few feet away from said item, and this will be used over several hours to drill out the tubeplate to suit the new flue tubes.
This time last year we had a snowplough, now we have a tender. It
doesn't have a tank yet its true (though arrangements are in hand for the
construction of one), but the Maunsell team have torn into this project this
year with a vengeance. During spring, the concrete filled tank was cut, the
steel "peeled" from the sides. Then a mechanical chipper was brought in to
break up the concrete slab that remained. This was not just with one tender I
hasten to add, but with two; we bought 2 to hedge our bets! The one not
selected (ex 929 Malvern) sits in the sidings at Sheffield park,
awaiting a use or an offer. The one chosen (ex 934 St Lawrence) was
clearly in better condition overall, but had rotten dragboxes. It also had a
mixed set of wheels, some spoked, some disc type. Using the wheels sets of the
spare tender we now have a full set of spoked wheels. The tender was take down
completely and needle gunned and painted. Reassembly is going well with most
major items in, or about to go in. Thats not bad progress over a year. Finally
the dragboxes are complete and rebuilt . Thats easy to say, but consider what
is involved for a second. You have to measure up the tender chassis, strengthen
it with temporary steel supports, then cut away the rotten drag boxes.
Steel is ordered, and as most of it is
3/4 or 1 inch thick, this is not cheap. This has to be shaped, and then drilled
with the various size holes for rivets or the attachment of various devices.
This is then assembled, bolted together, prior to a riveting team, being
organized to permanently fix it all together. Done it? .. great, now do the
drag box at the other end of the tender then!!. and we have too. Sometimes it
seems to take ages to get anything done, but when you assess things in these
kind of terms, its impressive to see just how much ground has been covered.
What you see in the picture (courtesy of Ian Wright) is the team working
together to, rivet up the tender drag box. this is a fiddly strenuous and
manpower consuming task. One (in this case Paul) uses a propane torch to heat
up the rivets in the mobile hearth, the man with the tongs (Paul No. 2) will
then grab one and whisk it with great speed and slot it into the appropriate,
prepared hole. This is tricky as time is tight before the thing cools from its
temperature of about 1300°C! The lead going into the frames is an air line,
at the end of which is a pneumatic rivetting gun, Steve enjoys that bit. The
second man in attendance (Melvyn) assists in securing the riveting dolly. What
Clive is doing, (the chap on the left) is not clear, but taking a breather I
should think... he had to cut the rivets down to size with a hacksaw!! .Still..
there's a great deal of satisfaction at the end as you always get to see
something tangible; a step nearer at the end. (By the way, the boiler in the
background is that of the O1
class, currently undergoing restoration.)
The colour photo
here (courtesy Steve Pilcher) shows the end result.. a chassis with strong new
drag boxes, painted and with buffers refitted. A lot of effort suddenly becomes
worthwhile.
1998 Predictions.. I just love this bit, because predictions in the restoration business make highly amusing reading after the completion of the restoration. If you check out our newsletter archive, and comments on previous restorations, the predictions are always ridiculously optimistic, though they seemed quite realistic at the time. Ok, that said, I'll stick my neck out and say I reckon that by the end of 1998 we should be able to
The unknown quantity is how much time will go onto 847, which has come out of traffic for its major boiler overhaul. Adrian Pinkess is coordinating the volunteer assistance for 847, and its stripping to enable the workshop staff to do the important bits. (Maunsell Society engines are subject to an agreement with the Bluebell that amounts to Bluebell can run them for nothing, but they have to pay for the overhaul. This said though, its in our interests to assist, as the queue for overhaul at the Bluebell is big, and the resources finite)
As for 541, there has been much talk but no action. This favourite is in the queue, and quite near the top of peoples thinking, especially as its economical, attractive, and doesn't require massive amounts of work. 830.. no change.. long term project if we keep her.. up for sale should another society decide they wished to take a shot at restoration.
By the way, 1618 is in the running sheds as a static exhibit, and again in the queue for overhaul.
The summer has come and gone, and during this time, although at the time progress seems slow, in reality much has been done. Due to the demands for space as much as anything, in the yard at Sheffield Park, work has been mainly, though not exclusively focused on the tender for 1638. Melvyn has been hired to work on the drag box and so this substantial piece of work is seeing much progress, in fact at the time of writing it is just about complete at one end and the other end has already got its bits cut.
The desire is to
get the tender frames back on the wheels. this cannot safely be achieved until
the drag boxes are complete as to hoist the frames without them is asking for
trouble, twisting of the frames being a very likely outcome. However, the path
has been laid, with the wheel sets having been prepared. The picture here shows
them cleaned, needlegunned, and primed, though they are now resplendent it
their correct colours of olive green with black tyres.
New oiler pads have been ordered for the axles and the axle boxes and spring have been prepared. With the frames having been prepared earlier, we are just waiting for the drag boxes to be completed before getting the crane in to hoist her back onto the wheels.
As you can see from the picture below, the frames themselves are ready to go. The angle iron resting on top, is in fact welded into place to brace the frames whilst they are without a drag box. this is fine whilst they are on stands, but would not withstand a lift into, place, hence the current focus of attention. A tank for the tender frames will be constructed by the free lance welder who is employed in the Bluebell workshops. The money to pay for this is reserved already. It is good sense to pay an expert to do this as welding such a tank form ¼" steel without distortion is the devils own job. A start will be made on this only when there is sufficient space available in the workshop, which is not likely to be until next spring, but then we are not in too much of a rush!
One
of the big events of the summer was the withdrawal from service of our S15,
No.847. Although she has
been in traffic for only 5 years, her boiler was tested 10 years ago, and it is
this that matters. At the time of the test, the certificate was taken to run
from the time of the first steaming. Unfortunately the goal posts were moved
and the rules since changed, now it runs from the time of the test. As 847 has
been sold short, so to speak, she is to get an express boiler overhaul
and be put back into traffic as soon as possible, the target being next year.
To this end, some society members have already started to assist the workshops
in anticipation of this overhaul by starting the engine stripping process.
She did go out in fine style though with a members special run on the 6th October, free to members, between Sheffield Park and Horsted Keynes, with a barbecue at Horsted Keynes. A nice way to mark the occasion! This means of course that the society has, at the moment, no engines in traffic, until 847 is returned (which will be sooner than the completion of 1638). All the more reason for us to redouble our efforts!
Much has been happening recently with regard to the engine and tender superstructure. The steel has arrived for the tender tank, and is lying on top of the tender chassis, waiting for some poor soul to take it on. This is a job for the professional welder as putting together such a tank with ¼" steel plate is tricky if you are not to distort the plates like mad. We will cut the sheets to shape and then let the man do his stuff!
Whilst this is going on, work
is in hand with the cab roof. The old roof has been stripped down and the
wastage assessed. The angle irons and brackets have been saved, but the roof
skin is a gonner. This isn't surprising really as its only 1/8" plate. There
was some discussion about the spectacle plate, but in the end the ¼"
plate was condemned by our chairman Ray, as there was wastage. It shows on the
picture here as rust stain, but there is much pitting in other areas too.
This doesn't actually leave us with a lot from the cab roof! The old plate is being used as a pattern to create the new one though, and at least the cab will look great, and as its the bit that gets looked at most by the public, that must be good.
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The cab roof is shown here with its angles. To make this fit to use as a pattern to make a new one it had to be straightened out. This is not as easy as you may think and involved heavy weights and even a bit of jumping around a bit! Other points of interest focus on drag box construction for the tender, which is well under way (see previous musings below) and the refurbishment and fitting of the tender brake gear. |
Although there has been a fair bit of riveting going on, to fix together
those parts that have been overhauled or replaced, the engine itself isn't
actually looking too much different to what it was a couple of months ago.
As you will see from this shot of the rear end, the substantial rebuild of the
back end is well advanced, and even the cabsides are up, and sporting a coat of
paint. The smaller rivets are fixed but the more substantial stuff will have to
make do bolted together until we can next get her into the workshop for the
heavy duty kit needed to install ¾ to 1 inch rivets.
Much attention and progress is there to be viewed on the tender. The one we are using is the one believed to have belonged originally to Schools Class St Lawrence (No.934). The plough was removed and the chassis stripped down to just frames, wheel sets and axle box/springs.
The buffer beams were clipped when the plough was made, so some
reconverting is going to have to happen. The beams will be removed, and there
is a bit of deliberation at the moment as to whether we should graft bits back
on or save time (although not money) by just making a new pair of buffer beams
altogether.
I am pleased to be able to report that the frames are in good shape, and
they have already been needle gunned, primed, and painted. If you take a look
at this next picture though, you will see that the same cannot be said of the
drag boxes to which they are attached. Unfortunately, the corrosive nature of
spilt ash, and the corners that trap it in these areas, combine to some
effect.
The bars that you see lying there are to be tacked by welding to the frames to brace them as the drag box is removed and rebuilt. This is especially necessary as we are expecting the crane to arrive soon and the frames will be lifted of the wheel sets to enable a swap round as I mentioned in the last musings. Obviously (I hope!) the bars will then be removed when the drag box area is repaired.
As you can see, the extent of drag box corrosion means that nearly all panels in this area cannot be saved. This means that Melvyn is busy with the cutting torch, and Ray is ordering in steel of the appropriate thickness. Steve has been doing a lot of gritblasting recently on the removed brake gear, and a variety of people have been making an infernal row with the needle guns. Its often Dave that then goes over everything (and sometimes I mean everything), with the paint tin and brush.
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Mean time, I've been working on the front end running plates, steps step braces, and a multitude of similar locomotive odds and ends. Its worth a look in if you are ever in the area. That's all for now... have fun! |
We have now completely stripped the two snowplough tenders. One was formerly attached to Malvern and the other to St Lawrence. We will be using the St Lawrence tender as that is in better shape. Needlegunning and painting is already underway, and the brake gear has been stripped off. The tender tank had to be destroyed to get rid of the concrete within. Another has already been quoted for (about £5000) and the concrete has been taken away after a pneumatic driver had broken it up. The buffer beams are being re-modified to their original state, and already they are starting to look presentable. The unused tender chassis will be stored, possibly for use with 830. The wheels and axle boxes are to be moved around as one tender has 2 disc type wheel sets and one spoke type. the other tender has 2 spoke and 1 disc!. We'll move them around to get a set of spoked wheels.
The engine is getting attention too. Its out of the works, but undercover in the running shed. New running plates have now been manufactured and fitted to all 4 corners. Similarly, there is now a set of steps on all 4 corners. the re-wheeled chassis looks fine and is growing upwards, as both cabsides are now fitted.
Most activity has been on the tenders as these were causing most disturbance to normal events at the Bluebell. Now that this is done, the focus has moved back a little to the engine itself. More next time... just email me to find out more.
The 1996 initial info on 1638 restorationWe've taken on this scrapyard hulk!
Yes! this is our latest project, to turn this derelict U Class into a shining example of the class. This is the starting point, 28 years in scrap condition and without a tender. This is how we do it, and where we are at. To begin with you take the locomotive completely to pieces, the boiler is split from the frames (the chassis) and the frames lifted off the wheel sets. When everything is stripped, the task of cleaning and overhaul begins. This first phase lasts about 2 years!. The cleaning involves a lot of needle gun work. A compressed air driven gun hammers a collection of steel rods against the metal frames, boiler and wheels. Its noisy and dirty. In summer the resultant dust and rust sticks to your sweat and in winter its to cold too hold the gun for long. It does however clear the corrosion. The next good question at this stage has got to be "who does this and why?" The why bit is easy, read on to the rest of this and you will find out. Who? well that's more tricky. As a smallish society (300 members) we have quite a good base of members who can get to Sheffield Park in deepest Sussex, to chip in with some hard labour. Its a fairly relaxed kind of thing, we do it for fun. If you don't feel like going you don't. Its partly a social thing of course, and sometimes we'll go off on rail tours as a group, or just to the bar!. On average we have half a dozen working members each weekend, though this figure does tend to rise during the summer months, and members are scarcer in the winter. No surprise there!. At this rate, any thing achieved in less than 5 years real is something of an express job. Fortunately we have a lot of the bits for 1638 so she is indeed a quicker job than say 847 was. We started in 1993 on 1638. If you take a look at her record card you will see that general overhauls took some time even when you had a team of engineers dedicated to the task, 40 hours a week. Suffice to say, we will be chuffed if we make our 5 year target. We have had 1638 a long time, and many of the missing parts were obtained in the intervening years in anticipation of a restoration attempt. Nevertheless, it is only when you completely strip the engine that you find out what will have to be renewed and really the extent of the task as a whole.
The axles boxes hadn't been moved for the best part of 30 years. They should have fallen out when the frames were lifted. Instead we had to use a 60 ton pressure jack to force them out!. The result was that the horn guides (axle box faces on the frames) needed much attention and machining. Some of the work can be seen here Of course, by now we had a massive pile of bits on our hands.
Fortunately we have a good working relationship with the
Bluebell Railway
where we are based, and the take over of the area immediately outside the
workshop was sympathetically viewed. This is just as well really, as what you
see in the picture is our frames next to sister engine 1618, Some parts had to be made because they were missing, like a set of
cab steps for the right hand side (taken from the loco at Barry for another
project), and some bits had to be made because corrosion was to advanced and
renewal was necessary for safe operation. The rear drag box is an example of
this (see picture) This is the bit that takes the strain of the weight of the
train behind the engine and is a box like structure made from 1" steel plates
bolted and riveted to the frames. Unfortunately it was also necessary to renew some bits because we
had to destroy them to remove them, the corrosion being so bad. This was the
reason that 4 of the 12 spring hanger connection rods had to be made. We were
pretty chuffed with the look of them when made though, all lovely and shiny,
and exactly as the others were when new. Being based at the Bluebell gives us
the advantage that we have access to some very highly skilled decent chaps who
have a lifetimes experience behind them, and are able to do a lot of the
machining to often quite breathtaking standards. The newly forged spring hanger
rods shown here for example had to be turned, milled and threaded with two
different thread sizes, to fine tolerances. You might have noticed by now, that all the chat is about the engine, what about the tender?! All is not lost despite the engine having been acquired without a tender. When the steam engines of the Southern were being scrapped, the tenders of the "Schools" class were not all cut up. Some were filled with concrete for ballast and had a snowplough tacked on the front. In this form they have staggered on for years. In recent times though, British Rail have decided to sell them off. The later batch of U Class, of which 1638 is a member, used the standard 4000 gallon tender as fitted to the "Schools" class. We were in luck. We had the right kind of tender, only the drag box height would need to be adjusted, and we'd have the authentic thing! We bought 2 in fact ex 929 Malvern and ex 934 St Lawrence Malvern's tender is stored, but St Lawrence's is getting the full treatment. More info on the snowplough tender story is on our tender info and drawings pages. Of course, whilst all this is going on there are hundreds of other
tasks to get on with. One such task is the manufacture of small parts such as
the steps shown here being painted. This painting is in itself a major task.
Red oxide primer followed by primer filler then undercoat and then top coat.
that will last it until it gets close to completion when it will be taken into
the works and given the treatment with several layers of finely applied gloss
coatings and the it will be lined out in Southern Railway colours. The 2
members shown here by the way are Mike Frackiewicz and our treasurer, Steve
Pilcher (foreground). |
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